186. Learning From a Heretic - September 5, 2020
09/05/2020 06:11:04 PM
Author | |
Date Added | |
Automatically create summary | |
Summary |
With the High Holidays upon us, this is the time of year when many Jews take time to think about sin, atonement and repentance. Last week we discussed the ancient scholar Elisha ben Abuyah, a man born sometime before 70 C.E. Elisha was a revered scholar who fell off the path of righteousness when he chose to stop following the Torah commandments. And, he did not seek atonement for this transgression.
Even though Elisha was a heretic, his teachings were preserved in the Talmud. Because using a proper name is a form of respect for a well- earned reputation, the Rabbis sought to diminish Elisha by not using his proper name. Instead, Elisha is, in most cases in the Talmud, simply referred to as “The Other One.”
Another prominent rabbi recorded in the Talmud is Rabbi Meir. Meir was actually a student of Elisha, remaining so even after Elisha transgressed. The Talmud tells of a conversation between the two men where Meir tells Elisha that there is an opportunity for Elisha to repent and return to the fold. Elisha replies that he has heard the words of God, and God said that all rebellious children may return - except for Elisha (The Other).
It is noteworthy that Meir continued to meet with Elisha, even though Elisha was considered a heretic. Because Meir was concerned about the well- being of Elisha, Meir asked Elisha to repent. Although Elisha has continued to hear the words of God, God indicated that there is no redemption for Elisha.
Another account of Elisha and Meir together describes the men talking and traveling on shabbat. There is a rabbinic limit about how far a person is allowed to travel on shabbat. When Elisha noticed that they have ventured close to the outer limit, Elisha, expressed concern for his friend, and encouraged Meir to turn back. Although Elisha no longer kept the Law, he does not want to see his friend transgress. When Meir asked Elisa to turn back, too, Elisha reminded Meir that God told him it was too late.
When we pray at Yom Kippur, we are praying that God will forgive us for our sins (after first having made an effort to apologize to those we have wronged). These passages tell us that some people are beyond redemption. This suggests that God alone can decide who can repent; which is disappointing in light of Yom Kippur.
Maimonides lived in the middle ages and was a brilliant Jewish scholar. In an effort to streamline the rabbinic laws and make them more accessible to people, he created a comprehensive list. That list includes deeds for which you cannot repent and God will not forgive:
-
Leading the masses to sin.
-
Leading a colleague to sin.
-
Refraining from rebuking a child who is heading toward sin.
-
Trying to game the system by claiming you can sin all you want as long as you repent before you die.
And there is no atonement for five of the deeds:
-
Separating from the community.
-
Contradicting the words of the Sages.
-
Scoffing at a mitzvot (commandment).
-
Demeaning a teacher.
-
Refusing to accept admonishment, because admonishment leads to teshuvah (atonement).
Elisha separated himself from the community, contradicted that words of the Sages, and scoffed at the mitzvot (commandments). These are all clear violations, so it is no wonder that God told him he was ineligible to repent.
In another account recorded in the Talmud, but set at a later time, Elisha’s daughter had fallen on hard times and approached a rabbi to ask for food. Learning that she was the daughter of Elisha, he disparaged her. God immediately sent down a trail of fire that struck the bench the rabbi was sitting on, leading the rabbi to comment that God still protected the honor of Elisha.
Our final Talmudic passage for today compares Torah scholars to nuts. A nut may be soiled on the outside, that does not make the inside inedible. Similarly, a Torah scholar who has sinned, does not make the whole Torah repulsive. This is why Rabbi Meir can continue to learn from the heretic, the Other, Rabbi Elisha. To bring this to a more contemporary example, does that fact that the composer Richard Wagner was a vehement anti-Semite detract from his musical accomplishments?
You can find our podcast on iTunes or Spotify under “TINW Torah Study” or “Jennifer Jaech.” Subscribe and rate us!
misquotes or misunderstandings in what Rabbi Jaech taught us are the responsibility of Tara Keiter
Wed, July 9 2025
13 Tammuz 5785
Temple israel Happenings
-
Thursday ,
JulJuly 17 , 2025Brotherhood BBQ @ Senasqua Park
Thursday, Jul 17th 6:00pm to 9:00pm
All men of Temple Israel are welcome to join the Brotherhood for grilled burgers, hot dogs & veggie burgers. Kids are welcome, too. We'll meet at Senasqua Park, in Croton, on the Hudson shoreline. We promise great sunset views and a chance to make some new friends, or catch up with old ones. -
Saturday ,
JulJuly 26 , 2025Renegades Baseball Game with Brotherhood
Shabbat, Jul 26th 5:00pm to 9:00pm
Join the fun and watch the Renegades Yankee Minor League team live in Fishkill. This is a family-friendly event! Feel free to bring your friends, family and neighbors. -
Tuesday ,
AugAugust 5 , 2025Current Events
Tuesday, Aug 5th 10:30am to 12:00pm
On the second Tuesday of each month, from 10:30 -12:00, join us at the Temple for our lively discussion around issues of local, national and international news events. We cover everything from breaking news to issues around health and well being and more! If you can't come in person, contact Shari to receive a link to join us virtually. -
Wednesday ,
AugAugust 6 , 2025Cocktails at the Lake with Sisterhood
Wednesday, Aug 6th 4:00pm to 9:00pm
All women of Temple Israel and their friends are invited to a social, relaxing sunset potluck dinner at Stillwater Lake in Ossining.
Events
Today's Calendar
: 7:30pm |
Friday Night
: 5:00pm |
: 7:00pm |
Shabbat Day
: 9:30am |
Upcoming Programs & Events
Jul 9 |
Jul 11 |
Jul 17 |
Jul 26 |
Aug 5 |
This week's Torah portion is Parashat Balak
Shabbat, Jul 12 |
Fast of Tammuz
Sunday, Jul 13 |